On the 27th January, twelve Junior golfers in the East Lothian Junior Golf League, together with their Parents, met for a lunch with the Group Leaders and with the guest of honour, Catriona Matthew. The party of 39 had a lovely lunch at The Glen Golf Club, in North Berwick. The 4 Girls and 8 Boys will leave for Pinehurst on the 9th February and return on the 20th February. During their visit, the Juniors will play 9 rounds of golf on some world class courses, such as Mid Pines, Pine Needles, Forest Creek, Pinehurst, and Longleaf, where they will experience all that one of the biggest golf destinations in the world can offer. Some generous friends in Pinehurst have again provided us with wonderful accommodation in the centre of Pinehurst. Other activities will involve visits to the Donald Ross Museum and to the Golf Pride factory. The Players in the photo, L-R, with the names of their 2023 East Lothian Teams in brackets are, Rory Leitch (Haddington) Ryan Pirie (Haddington) Kate Thomson (East Lothian Girls) Angus Waddell (Gullane) Louise Martin (East Lothian Girls), Katie Mackenzie (Gullane), Rory Leishman (Musselburgh Toun) Scott McAdam (Kilspindie), Anna Zonova (Royal Musselburgh) Joe Macpherson (Kilspindie) Riley Porterfield (Kilspindie), and Jamie Barker (Longniddry). League Players are invited based on their past commitment to the League’s events over several years, and factors such age and handicap are also taken into consideration.
East Lothian Junior Golf League News
Jack Rogan, pictured with the League Secretary, Dave Warren, has stepped down from his role as Joint Secretary of the League as he is relocating to the North of Scotland. Jack is a former player for Longniddry in the Junior League, and represented the League in The Watson Cup Match against South Carolina. After graduating from St Andrews, where he played a lot of golf on the fabled Old Course, Jack returned to the East Lothian area to work, and he became the Junior Convenor for Longniddry. Jack then volunteered to assist Dave in the organisation of League events, including the County Cup. We thanked Jack at the Leagues’ recent AGM where he was printed with a pin flag for the 18th hole at the World’s most famous course.
Latest Results – The remaining two quarter finals have now been played at the West Links. Congratulations to West Links Bass and Longniddry for some great play on a blustery day! All quarter finals have now been played. NOTE THE CHANGE OF DATE DEADLINE FOR THE SEMI FINALS. Some Players will be in PINEHURST in February. Thanks to Chris for pointing that out. NOTE THE OPTIONS FOR DATES FOR THE FINAL.
Note – one of the previous rules of the competition was overlooked in the re-write for 2023 and has now been updated. The rule was:- The team members may be altered between rounds of the Competition, but Teams must still comply with the pairings rules at each round.
County Cup 2023/24 – This year the County Cup for 2023/24 will again be staged over the winter months and the final must be completed before the end of March 2024, just in time for the new League season starting. The draw and amended rules have been prepared and now appear below. Please read them. Each Junior Convenor has been sent an email containing the information. NOTE – an example for calculating the strokes to be given in any match can be seen on this page after the Rules. See recent change to Rule 14.
RULES FOR THE COUNTY CUP 2023/24. (AMENDED 15/11/2023)
- ELIGIBILITY – Golf Clubs situated in East Lothian, who have Junior Sections, and who hhttps://eastlothianjuniorgolf.org.uk/wp-admin/upload.phpave playing rights on courses in East Lothian, and have paid their annual subscription to the League, may play in this Team competition. Clubs in East Lothian currently not in the League, may enter a Team by invitation, on payment of a £30 entry fee.
- Team Members must be under 18 years of age on the 1st of January 2023 for the purposes of this competition which will run from when the draw is published until the event is completed, which must be by 31st March 2024 at the latest.
- The seeded draw has been made with reference to the finishing positions in the 2023 League, so the 4 leading Teams have been given “Byes.”
- A “Player” may play for any League Club where the player is a bona fide member but will be “Cup Tied” for the remainder of the event once they play for any Team.
- FORMAT – Each “Team” will consist of 4 players. The format is Double Aggregate Handicap Foursomes (alternate shot) so each Match will involve two Foursomes “Games.”
- The two lowest handicapped Players in each Team, MUST play in the first game. If Players have identical Handicap indexes on the day of the event, the Convenor may choose who will play in the first game.
- VENUE – Matches are to be hosted by the Team first named in each tie, and courtesy of the Course will be given to the visiting Team. In the case of Musselburgh Toun being the host Team, their Matches can be played at either of the Musselburgh courses, at any stage of the competition.
- Matches will be played as per the conditions in place at that venue e.g. fairway mats, preferred lies etc.
- TEES – These will be the Mens and Ladies “Medal Tees” or any Mandatory “Winter Tees” unless both Junior Convenors mutually agree that another set of Tees will be used. Convenors can agree that each Game might be played from different Tees.
- If any Girl plays in a foursome, the Girl will drive off the Ladies’ medal tee when the playing order dictates. Rules Note – any “”Provisional Ball” MUST be played by the partner from the SAME tee where the original ball, which might be lost or out of bounds, was played from.
- RESULT – The winning Team is decided by aggregate “holes up” over both Games.
- TIES – In the event of a tie on aggregate after 18 holes, both Games must complete extra holes until a clear aggregate result is obtained. For example if in Game 1, Team A wins the 19th hole, and in Game 2, Team B wins the 19th hole, then both Games have to proceed to play the 20th hole etc etc until a winning aggregate is evident. Handicap strokes will again be given at extra holes where the stroke indices dictate.
- HANDICAPS – Both Games will be handicap Games in which the maximum handicap allowed for any player is 24. Players off higher handicaps may play, but they will be limited to a handicap of 24 before any calculation of handicap strokes to be received is made.
- CALCULATION OF HANDICAP STROKES – Foursomes. Playing Handicaps for each side in Foursomes are 50% of the combined Course Handicaps of the two players concerned. If multiple tees are in use, then an adjustment for any difference in the C.R. is required. The first step is to calculate the allowance as 50% of the combined Course Handicaps and then to apply any adjustments using the different Course Ratings depending on which tee are being used. To achieve equity any adjustment is half the combined adjustments for each side. The Playing Handicap is always rounded to an integer value. (See example below.)
- STROKE INDICES – Handicap strokes are to be taken at the holes indicated by the Stroke Index for Men on the card of the course unless any Game involves only Girls in which case the Ladies Stroke Index will apply.
- STROKES RECEIVED – Any strokes to be received by a Girl in a mixed gender game will be taken at the appropriate holes using the Mens’ Stroke Indices. In any all Girls match, the Ladies’ Stroke Index will be used.
- COSTS -The costs of catering and refreshments at a match will be shared by the two Teams involved.
- FINAL – The Club hosting the final will provide soft drinks and a snack for the finalists after the final but this will be paid for by the League.
- REFEREE – The Referee will be the League Secretary who should be contacted on any Rules issue which cannot be resolved between the Players, or any attending Convenors. The League Secretary will be in attendance at the Final to decide on any rules issues or disputes.
- PRIZES – Prizes in the form of vouchers will be awarded to the Convenors of the finalists for fair distribution to the Players who have represented their Team during any stages of the Competition.
- RULES – The Rules of Golf as approved by the Royal and Ancient Golf Club, together with any Local Rules, will apply to the Matches.
- Distance measuring devices (DMD’s) which comply with the Rules of Golf are allowed in this Competition.
- No Caddies are allowed.
- Junior Convenors, other Team Members or Reserves, Parents or Relatives or any other Club representatives, are not allowed to offer “Advice” to players in either Team during any Match. The definition of “Advice” is: – “Any counsel or suggestion that could influence a player in determining his play, the choice of a club, or the method of making a stroke.” BUT: – Information or interpretation of the Rules or on matters of Public Information, such as the position of hazards, or the flagstick on the putting green, or the shape of dog-leg hole, yardage from sprinklers, and encouragement etc IS NOT advice. In addition, Parents and Relatives are expected to keep a discreet distance from any Matches so as not to influence any Players in any way.
Dave Warren and Jack Rogan, Co-Secretaries. 21st October 2023.
This link leads to the Girls’ fixture list for 2024, which is the Centenary Year for the Ladies! Girls who are members of East Lothian Clubs may be able to play in these Girls’ events, and also in the Ladies’ events included below if they join up. In addition, the Ladies hold three events for Girls, the Spring, Summer and Autumn meetings, in conjunction with three of the ten East Lothian Junior Golf Leagues’ Match Days at Kilspindie, Royal Musselburgh and Gifford – see League fixture list here or on our Home Page. Attached is a copy of the County Ladies’ Fixture List as at 22nd January 2024. Please see the Ladies’ website for their fixture card here, where updates will appear. Their Home Page is here.
We have concluded the OOMs for 2023, after MD10 at The Glen. You can see the full list here on your Golf Genius App, by viewing “Standings” under “Season Points.” The scoring was based on Players’ 6 best placings out of the 10 MDs. Well done to Jack Collingswood for leading the way in the Scratch version, winning by only 15 points from Michael Coulter, who logged 3 wins from his 6 appearances, but Michael could not discard any of his poorer rounds. Jack played in 9 MDs, and had 4 wins, but he was able to discard 3 of his poorer rounds. In the Handicap section, Rory McArdle was victorious but only by 4 points from both Kole Henderson and Sam Ratcliffe. Anyone with only 5 appearances could not count in the totals, so please try to play in as many events as you can next year! The generous prize list can be seen below. Trophies have been engraved and delivered to the winners. Dave Warren.
Photo of the Order of Merit trophy winners and other prizewinners who were present at the Prize-giving. L-R Luke McLaughlin, Rory McArdle, Jack Collingswood, Andrew Irvine, Harris Munro, all West Links Juniors Angus Waddell, Gullane, and Finn Ryan, Glen.